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Assunto:  Still with Trump
De:       Dumas Walker
Data:     Fri, 27 Mar 2026 10:51:46 -0500
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> This is the thing. I'm no Biden stan; the actual left (not just "Democrats")
> are of the same mind. Biden and the dems did botch many aspects of their
> immigration policy, which then made room for Trump's horrific xenophobia
> to gain traction and become policy.

We agree here 100%.  The Biden admin would have been better off going back
to whatever the Obama admin was doing.  It probably wasn't near perfect,
either, but it worked better than what they did/didn't do and probably
would have satisfied all but the most left-leaning Democrats.

> Now, on the subject of flight risk,
> I would just say that the issue is
> the ability to overclassify people.
> We should use the actual apparatus
> of the state to actually DETERMINE
> who would be a flight risk, not
> just do it as a matter of course,
> which is my part of my point.
> If you just blanket classify people
> we arrive right back where we are now. That is why it is bad policy to do.

I would agree in the case of people we know something about.  The problem
here is that US law enforcement may not have any past history with these
people.  Treating them like they are not a flight risk, blanket or not,
while not knowing anything about them is a worse policy.

> There is a right way to do this.
> I don't think there's a "middle" way
> to do this,

I think the correct way is likely going to be closer to a "middle" way than
to the either side of the political spectrum way.

> but I do think the
> left I often talk to doesn't do
> enough to consider how people are living out on the border states,

Agree.

> and the right, in particular the
> MAGA right, refuses to
> acknowledge the facts that
> most of the things they complain
> about are NOT tied to immigration
> but rather to a combo of market
> forces and refusal to stamp out corruption and financial power
> by our politicians from the
> local level on up.

I agree with the last bit re: corruption.  Some of what they complain about
certainly is tied to immigration and a combo of forces -- HRC's stint as SOS
and the Biden admin's, and/or the person he named as border czar's,
failures -- that certainly won't be fixed by anything the left comes up with.

Which takes me back to the correct way is likely somewhere in the political
middle and not the way either political extreme has or would want it handled.

> Punishing people that actuall have nothin to do with the real problems does
> nothing but hurt our country.

I agree that rounding people up in the streets falls into this "nothing but
hurt" category.  Turning them away at the border, or holding them somewhere
until their court date comes up, does not.


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