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Data:     Fri, 27 Mar 2026 06:17:28 -0700
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  bBynb: hcDumas Walker bto cVILENIHILIST bon cWed Mar 25 2026 10:12 amn

 > >  > IMHO, the proper solution there > >  > t > release them back into the
 > >  > country they came through...
 > >  > Mexico, as was being done durin > >  > at least part of Trump's first
 > >  > admin... instead of releasing t > >  > into the USA.
 > 
 > > Well no, the point is they are
 > > holding them prior to their hearin > > which
 > > is them gettin due process under t > > law. So until they've been heard,
 > > people
 > > should not just be deported.
 > 
 > I would consider them a flight risk. > especially since many were in
 > "flight" when apprehended.  Law
 > enforcement and the courts usually
 > frown on allowing citizens who are
 > "flight risks" back out to roam abou > waiting for trial, so I don't think  > should be any different for these
 > folks.
 > 
 > They either need to be kept somewher > or made to wait across the border,
 > until their trial just like any othe > person labeled a flight risk.  You
 > don't just let them go and hope the
 > come back when their date comes up.. > that is, assuming you even know wher > they are to tell them their date has > come up.
 > 
 > Bad bad bad idea.
 > 
 > > Trump, and Biden as well, could ha > > resolved that by makin a strong ca > > to hire more judges and lawyers to > > expedite the cases and speed up
 > > processing. Neglicence on Biden's
 > > part,
 > 
 > That would not be a bad idea for sur > You can see Trump being that kind
 > of negligent, but you would wonder w > the Biden admin didn't think of that > 
 > > but Trump's response has been
 > > indiscriminately picking up anyone > > brown
 > > (and even some Europeans),
 > > many of which haven't EVEN committ > > crimes and in many cases are US
 > > citizens.
 > 
 > Yes, this way is wrong... it is a
 > knee-jerk response to to another,
 > opposite way that was also wrong.
 > 
 > A case of two wrongs really not maki > a "right."
 > 
 > 
 >  * SLMR 2.1a * LSD: Virtual Reality
 > without all the fancy hardware


This is the thing. I'm no Biden stan;
the actual left (not just "Democrats")
are of the same mind. Biden and the
dems did botch many aspects of their
immigration policy, which then made
room for Trump's horrific xenophobia
to gain traction and become policy.

Now, on the subject of flight risk,
I would just say that the issue is
the ability to overclassify people.
We should use the actual apparatus
of the state to actually DETERMINE
who would be a flight risk, not
just do it as a matter of course,
which is my part of my point. 
If you just blanket classify people
we arrive right back where we are now.
That is why it is bad policy to do.

There is a right way to do this.
I don't think there's a "middle" way
to do this, but I do think the 
left I often talk to doesn't do 
enough to consider how people are
living out on the border states,
and the right, in particular the
MAGA right, refuses to 
acknowledge the facts that 
most of the things they complain
about are NOT tied to immigration
but rather to a combo of market
forces and refusal to stamp out
corruption and financial power
by our politicians from the 
local level on up. 

Punishing people that actuall have
nothin to do with the real problems
does nothing but hurt our country.





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