BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Re: Ring of Fire/Saturday
De:       Weatherman
Data:     Mon, 25 May 2026 01:30:00 -0600
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-=> Logic44 wrote to Weatherman <=-

 Lo>   Re: Re: Ring of Fire/Saturday Nig
 Lo>   By: Weatherman to Weatherman on Mon May 18 2026 09:00:17

 >  > If you want a cheap shooter/beater: The Raven may appeal as a
 >  > budget-friendly range toy. However, due to its cast-zinc components, it
 >  > is not recommended for daily carry or serious use.

 Lo> I firmly disagree. I think it's perfect as a budget small
 Lo> wildlife/stray animal defense weapon. (See "Velo-dog gun")
 Lo> ***************************************

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but for budget small wildlife/stray
animal defense, in my mind you can't beat the Heritage Arms product line.  I've
picked up brand new Barkeep models for $99 at the store, and the Rough Rider
generally retails for about $129.  Add $30 and you have a .22 WMR cylinder,
which gaurantees a hell of a lot more punch than the .25 ACP can provide.

For that matter, the Ruger Super Wrangler can be had for less than $300.  This
comes with a .22 LR and .22 WMR cylinder so you can switch between the two
rounds.  

I'm not bad-mouthing the Raven, as mentioned earlier, I have a Sundance and a
Phoenix, both in .25 ACP and find them to be fun little plinkers.  The Phoenix
is definitely the better of the two.  The Sundance, being closer to the Raven
in design just has terrible sights.  It's the curse of the beast.  Hell, the
sights on my Colt 1908 aren't any better!  I'm just saying that for budget
snake/rat guns, there are better choices and at not a much higher price than
what Ring of Fire guns are going for right now.



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