BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Re: "Extra Attribute Codes" settings
De:       Dan Clough
Data:     Wed, 15 Apr 2026 13:08:45 -0500
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-=> Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

 > I was recently battling with the display of "pipe code" colors in messages
 > (over on FSXnet).  I wasn't seeing them in the messages while reading on the
 > BBS.  Long story short - I didn't have them enabled properly due to some
 > confusion (at least on my part) about how that was done.
 >
 > In each and every sub-board in a given FTN, under Toggle Options, is the
 > menu choice for Extra Attribute Codes, where you can enable/disable
 > different BBS color display codes.  I had those enabled but was not seeing
 > colors (just saw the raw pipe codes).  Others said things worked fine on
 > their system.
 >
 > I was wondering if it had anything to do with DDMsgReader, which I was
 > using, but others said they used it and all was fine.  Discussed in IRC with
 > Nightfox and he suggested I try disabling DDMR and use stock SBBS message
 > reader.  When I did that, I was able to see the colors as expected, so that
 > seemed to point to an issue with DDMR...  However, I eventually stumbled
 > onto an additional place to configure these Extra Attribute Codes, which is
 > under the System menu on the opening screen of SCFG.  When I enabled the
 > extra codes there, and resumed using DDMR, the colors worked fine.

 DM> Sounds like DDMR is using the wrong setting flags:
 DM> https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/da9485cf0e62b

Ahhhhh....!  Look at that.  Exactly right.

 > So... it's clear that DDMR only pays attention to that setting, and not the
 > individual message area toggles.  I realize that isn't your problem, and
 > perhaps DDMR can be tweaked to pay attention to both, or something.

 DM> DDMR should *only* use the per sub-board setting for SBBS v3.21 and
 DM> later.

Yes, I see that now that I'm aware of that recent commit.

 > My real point here (finally getting to it!) is that I'm wondering why the
 > setting is in two different places.  I'm thinking maybe the "global" one in
 > the System menu enables it for any/all message areas, and then a Sysop could
 > fine tune that by disabling the color codes for individual message areas or
 > FTNs.  I guess that makes a little sense but would seem to be an unlikely
 > configuration. Maybe I'm the first one to be confused by this arrangement,
 > but honestly it is indeed confusing to me at least.
 >
 > Could you explain the logic for the two places to set this, and how they
 > interact?  Thank you, it is greatly appreciated.

 DM> The "Global" extra attribute setting is for display files (and strings
 DM> in Baja modules), while the per sub-board settings are for messages
 DM> posted to those sub-boards. I thought the name of the options made the
 DM> distinction clear: System->"Extra Attribute Codes in Display Files"
 DM> Sub-board->Toggle Options->"Extra Attribute Codes in Messages"

You're absolutely right - I missed the complete title in the pop-up 
windows for each, just noticed the menu choices that both say "Extra 
Attribute Codes...".  Perfectly clear now.

 DM> The online help for those settings could go into more detail about them
 DM> I suppose.

Probably no need, and thank you for the excellent explanation.

I'm assuming Nightfox will notice this, and take appropriate steps.  :-)

Thank you again, and thanks in advance to Nightfox!!




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