BBS: TELESC.NET.BR Assunto: Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate Starlight De: Bo Holt Data: Sun, 12 Apr 2026 11:08:18 +0000 ----------------------------------------------------------- |03Quoting message from |11Dennis Katsonis |03to |11Mortar M. |03on |1112 Apr 26 11:25:58|03. DK> Re: Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate Starlight DK> By: Mortar M. to Dennis Katsonis on Sat Apr 11 2026 01:41 pm DK> > Re: Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate Starlight > By: Dennis Katsonis to marika on Fri Apr 10 2026 22:44:14 > > > To be frank, C64 basic wasn't that great, even back then. > > Agreed. Considering the number of Commodore micros already in the wild, yo > think they'd have improved the BASIC for the VIC and 64, as these were inte > for non-computer savvy people. > > > My first computer was a VZ 200, which predated the C64 (I think it was s > > as a V-Tech 200 in the US. > > I vaguely remember reading about this in magazines, but never actually seen > one. After looking it up online, I can see why. It was only around for tw > year and had low specs. No way could it have competed with the likes of th > C=64 or even the Atari 400. However, it did not pre-date the 64. The VZ-2 > came out in '83, while the 64 came out a year earlier. DK> DK> I got the VZ200 in 1991, quite a bit after it release. My parents got it DK> garage sale cheap (buying a new computer was a bit much back then, just fo DK> to use). It was a bit dissapointing as I wanted the Atari 1040STE, but as DK> had just been introduced to BASIC at school, it was fun to try BASIC at ho DK> and draw graphics and make basic games. DK> DK> Dick Smith started an electronics store called, Dick Smith Electronics, an DK> VZ 200 was their rebrand, sold with his face on it. DK> DK> A little later that year, they got a Vic 20 at a garage sale, which had be DK> graphics, but lacked the drawing commands. A little later, the C64 came, DK> second hand. You could do sprites, but again, no graphics. Not without DK> entering some other machine code subroutines. DK> DK> I suppose they had to get it out quick, and once it was out, you can't pat DK> it. DK> --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32 DK> * Origin: MS & RD BBS bbsweb.mozysswamp.org (3:633/384) I am 45. My gradnfather got me a Timex Sinclair when I was 2, CoCo2 when I turned 5 (really cut my teeth on that one), then his hand-me-down Amstrad PC1512DD when I was in the fourth grade, and then in 192 started as an apprentice at our local computer store and learned to build machines and built my 486DX-33. I never stopped working in the field since I started in 1992, and I started BBSing back on the CoCo2. I never knew anyone with a Commodore when I was growing up, so I'm enjoying living an alternate-reality childhood with the C64U. I'm trying to spark an interest in computers with my nephews and nieces (they are much younger than 5 still), they already love allmy vintage electronics I bring, and it's fun to play with these things with them. ... Message sent. Destroy immediately upon receipt. --- Renegade v1.40/DOS * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (1:129/305) ----------------------------------------------------------- [Voltar]