BBS: TELESC.NET.BR Assunto: Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate De: Dennis Katsonis Data: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:31:00 +1000 ----------------------------------------------------------- -=> Bo Holt wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=- BH> @MSGID: <69DBC6D4.1377.fidocbm@bbs.mozysswamp.org> |03Quoting message from |11Dennis Katsonis |03to |11Mortar M. |03on |1112 Apr 26 11:25:58|03. DK> Re: Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate Starlight DK> By: Mortar M. to Dennis Katsonis on Sat Apr 11 2026 01:41 pm DK> > Re: Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate Starlight > By: Dennis Katsonis to marika on Fri Apr 10 2026 22:44:14 > > > To be frank, C64 basic wasn't that great, even back then. > > Agreed. Considering the number of Commodore micros already in the wild, yo > think they'd have improved the BASIC for the VIC and 64, as these were inte > for non-computer savvy people. > > > My first computer was a VZ 200, which predated the C64 (I think it was s > > as a V-Tech 200 in the US. > > I vaguely remember reading about this in magazines, but never actually seen > one. After looking it up online, I can see why. It was only around for tw > year and had low specs. No way could it have competed with the likes of th > C=64 or even the Atari 400. However, it did not pre-date the 64. The VZ-2 > came out in '83, while the 64 came out a year earlier. DK> DK> I got the VZ200 in 1991, quite a bit after it release. My parents got it DK> garage sale cheap (buying a new computer was a bit much back then, just fo DK> to use). It was a bit dissapointing as I wanted the Atari 1040STE, but as DK> had just been introduced to BASIC at school, it was fun to try BASIC at ho DK> and draw graphics and make basic games. DK> DK> Dick Smith started an electronics store called, Dick Smith Electronics, an DK> VZ 200 was their rebrand, sold with his face on it. DK> DK> A little later that year, they got a Vic 20 at a garage sale, which had be DK> graphics, but lacked the drawing commands. A little later, the C64 came, DK> second hand. You could do sprites, but again, no graphics. Not without DK> entering some other machine code subroutines. DK> DK> I suppose they had to get it out quick, and once it was out, you can't pat DK> it. DK> --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32 DK> * Origin: MS & RD BBS bbsweb.mozysswamp.org (3:633/384) BH> I am 45. My gradnfather got me a Timex Sinclair when I was 2, CoCo2 BH> when I turned 5 (really cut my teeth on that one), then his BH> hand-me-down Amstrad PC1512DD when I was in the fourth grade, and then BH> in 192 started as an apprentice at our local computer store and learned BH> to build machines and built my 486DX-33. I never stopped working in BH> the field since I started in 1992, and I started BBSing back on the BH> CoCo2. I never knew anyone with a Commodore when I was growing up, so BH> I'm enjoying living an alternate-reality childhood with the C64U. I'm BH> trying to spark an interest in computers with my nephews and nieces BH> (they are much younger than 5 still), they already love allmy vintage BH> electronics I bring, and it's fun to play with these things with them. I did get my daughters to enjoy a few Commodore 64 games on the emulator, mainly "Ducks Ahoy", "International Soccer" and "Decathlon". they watched my play "Beamrider" which was a favourite of mine too. Never got them into programming. They have Windows laptops now, and use those, but aren't that interested in learning how they actually work. Its hard to get them intersted, as there are so many distractions. One thing that helped our generation, was when you got those microcomputeres, there wasn't much eles you could to but program. Now, a new computer instantly has internet, YouTube, all the distractions. Back then, there was nothing, so may as well go through the manual. --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52 * Origin: MS & RD BBS bbsweb.mozysswamp.org (3:633/384) ----------------------------------------------------------- [Voltar]