BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Re: #1 in Google
De:       Dan Clough
Data:     Sat, 14 Mar 2026 10:37:07 -0500
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-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-

 DC> Of course it opens up other issues...  So the requirement for an FTSC
 DC> member to be a nodelisted sysop is "met" by doing this, but it's
 DC> really not a true/honest representation.  He's *NOT* a nodelisted
 DC> sysop, but this allows him to be on the FTSC anyway.  Does that seem
 DC> right?

 MvV> It does not seem right to me...

Same here.

 DC> I see your reasoning to some extent, because we probably shouldn't
 DC> lose the FTSC because of a 40-year-old obsolete document.

 DC> Here's an honest question - why can't P4 be changed?  What's stopping
 DC> that from happening?  Or is this FTSC requirement defined in the FTSC
 DC> "charter" (if that's the right word), rather than in P4?  What I'm
 DC> getting at is how can the minimum number of FTSC members be
 DC> changed/reduced to avoid having to resort to Nodelist fuckery to
 DC> "illegally" keep it alive?

 MvV> Changing the required minimum number of FTSC members is not hard. All
 MvV> it needs is a decision by the FTSC members. In fact this already
 MvV> happened some years ago. The number was reduced from seven to five in
 MvV> order to address the problem already mentioned. Not enough candidates.
 MvV> But that wasn't enough to "save" the FTSC. We see what happened next...

Understood, thanks.

 MvV> The sad reality is that the FTSC is the facto dead. The only visible
 MvV> remaining activty in the last three quarters of a decade is the yearly
 MvV> charade of the election. Might as well face reality and disband it.

You may be right.  It seems especially ironic right now, because there 
are actually some new technologies, methods, software, standards, 
specifications, etc being actively developed and released.  Just exactly 
what the FTSC "needs".  Not sure why there isn't more interest, nor 
anything actually being done by the FTSC.  



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