BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  GoldED goes Open Source!
De:       Andrei Rachita
Data:     Wed, 25 Mar 2026 06:13:06 +0200
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Thanks a lot, Kai for the detailed explanation.
I made a confusion between GoldEd and GoldEd+

Best regards,
Andrei


 KR> Hello Andrei,

 AR>> Why forget them?

 KR> Anything related to that topic needs to be leveled from its source.

 AR>> GoldEd started as a project in Russia. We should at least give them
 AR>> credit for that, no?

 KR> No. Golded was a commercial shareware created and published by Odinn
 KR> Sorensen.

 KR> And Russia does not have any credits in it. Odin Sorensen was Danish but
 KR> that does not give Denmark credits. It was Alexander S. Aganichev who did
 KR> the initial golded fork on github. Later the project was maintained by
 KR> Stas Degteff, Micheal Dukelsky and others that i don't remember but they
 KR> are all credited in the list of sourceforge project members and githubs
 KR> contributors.

 KR> Regards

 KR> Kai

 KR> ===========================================================================
 KR> ==
 KR> * From : Odinn Sorensen, 2:236/77 (31 Oct 98 18:27)
 KR> * To   : All
 KR> * Subj : GoldED goes Open Source!
 KR> ===========================================================================
 KR> ==
 KR> Hello All.

 KR> GoldED goes Open Source!

 KR> The final 3.00 Public Release version will be released soon, along with
 KR> full source code (for both 3.0.0 and the in-development 4.x), under a
 KR> license that meets the Open Source Definition (http://www.opensource.org).
 KR> The license is currently being worked out, but will likely resemble the
 KR> MozPL (http://www.mozilla.org/NPL/MPL-1.0.html) a lot.

 KR> The opening of the source does not mean that I'm stopping development of
 KR> GoldED, but because of changed circumstances in my life, I can no longer
 KR> spend as much time as I would like on development. Not even fixing the
 KR> simple bugs and easy features. Additionally, I have now become
 KR> economically independent of income from GoldED key sales. But most
 KR> importantly, over the years I have become more and more facinated with
 KR> Open Source software such as Linux, and promised myself that one day when
 KR> I either became unable to develop GoldED sufficiently and/or I became
 KR> financially independent of income from GoldED, I would release the
 KR> sourcecode. This is the promise I'm now honoring.

 KR> What will happen next is this:

 KR> * GoldED 3.00 Public Release. Binaries for all the platforms as usual,
 KR> except that the key checker, nag screens etc. are removed.

 KR> * The version number scheme is changed to "linux kernel style", such as
 KR> 3.0.0, where the first number is the major version, the second is even
 KR> (0,2,4,..) for stable versions or uneven (1,3,5,..) for potentially
 KR> unstable versions, the last number is the release number.

 KR> * The source for the stable binaries is released as 3.0.0. A new source
 KR> branch is created with version number 3.1.0, where all further development
 KR> on the 3.x.x versions will happen. Well-tested bugfixes might be
 KR> transferred to the 3.0.x branch, so that 3.0.x will be improved in a
 KR> stable manner.

 KR> * Source will be made available both as tarballs, built on a regular
 KR> basis, and via a CVS server. The CVS server will be read-only to most, but
 KR> a core group of developers will get access to committing source directly
 KR> to the CVS. At this moment, the core group consists of myself and Dirk A.
 KR> Mueller, but we are looking forward to opening up for more, when we see
 KR> quality patches from interested developers. We will be accepting patches
 KR> for the source, but we cannot guarantee speedy inclusion (or even final
 KR> acceptance) in the official source. In the mean time you can of course run
 KR> your own patched version and even distribute binaries, as long as you make
 KR> your patches available under an Open Source license and clearly mark your
 KR> version as non-official.

 KR> Watch this space for more details on the source at a later date.

 KR> All versions up to and including 3.00.Beta5 are shareware, but keys to the
 KR> shareware versions are no longer sold. The new 4.x keys are unfortunately
 KR> no longer relevant, since future versions will not include any key checker
 KR> code. I'm very sorry that people paid faithfully for the 4.x key upgrades
 KR> and now won't get exactly what they paid for. I could not predict back
 KR> then what would happen (I got a well-paid job and don't have to worry
 KR> about income from now on). I had to assume that I would need additional
 KR> income for at least couple of years more, so I could not stop sales back
 KR> then. If you are feeling cheated, please remember that I have specifically
 KR> stated seveal times that nobody HAD to pay for an upgrade before 4.x was
 KR> actually released. I changed the key system and pricing back then to
 KR> simplify the price system from a complicated "pay more for each platform"
 KR> to a "one key fits all" and even lowered the price and opened for easy
 KR> registration/upgrade with creditcard on the internet. It was nice that
 KR> this triggered a burst of upgrades to the new key and more registrations,
 KR> but it was never intended (as some might suspect) as a way to squeeze more
 KR> money out of users.

 KR> If you registered or upgraded recently, and now feel that this is just too
 KR> much and want your money back, please reconsider. I'll be doing a lot of
 KR> work to ensure that this Open Source project gets going, integrating
 KR> patches and so on. In some ways it's even more work than before, but I'll
 KR> be happy to do it, because GoldED will be improved faster by the patch
 KR> contributions than if I had to do all the work myself. Please consider
 KR> your registration or upgrade as a contribution to help me do this work,
 KR> and rest assured that you will now be getting a lot more than you
 KR> bargained for. If you still want your money back, I'm prepared to offer a
 KR> refund. A little known fact is that I have a 90 days satisfaction
 KR> guarantee, as stated in the license.doc in the 2.50 distribution (see
 KR> excerpt below). I'm extending this guarantee back to the date when I
 KR> started selling 4.x keys. If you still want the refund, please write to me
 KR> at refund@goldware.dk and I'll arrange the refund. Please be patient. I
 KR> cannot guarantee that I can give you the refund right here and now, since
 KR> I have other bills to pay, and for economical reasons I'll probably want
 KR> to wait until I can process all refunds in one fell swoop (and save on
 KR> currency conversion costs). Please don't ask the reg.sites for the refund,
 KR> they already sent the money to me. Those who paid using the ShareIt
 KR> service and still haven't got their key, please ask ShareIt to refund your
 KR> money NOW. I already told them a month ago to stop selling it, but
 KR> apparently they kept selling it even after that :-( If you paid via
 KR> ShareIt AND got your key from me, but now want the refund, please contact
 KR> me at refund@goldware.dk.

 KR> 3.  Satisfaction Guarantee. If you are dissatisfied with any product
 KR>     you buy from us under this Agreement for any reason, you may
 KR>     return it at any time up to 90 days after purchase and we will
 KR>     give you a full refund. Refunds will be based on the price you
 KR>     paid, less shipping costs. You must contact us before returning
 KR>     any product for a refund. This satisfaction guarantee does not
 KR>     apply to multi-system licenses for more than 10 computers, or to
 KR>     purchases of more than 10 individual copies at one time.

 KR> But again, PLEASE reconsider any thought of wanting a refund. It's such a
 KR> small amount and you'll just be slowing down development and thus making
 KR> me and other users less happy.

 KR> Odinn

 KR> -+- GoldED/W32 3.00.B1025+
 KR>  + Origin: http://www.goldware.dk * e-mail: odinn@goldware.dk (2:236/77)
 KR> ===========================================================================
 KR> ==



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