BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Re: DIRECT netmail
De:       ogg
Data:     Thu, 12 Mar 2026 18:57:08 -0500
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On 12 Mar 2026, Wilfred van Velzen said the following...
 
 Wv> Hi ogg,
 Wv> 
 Wv> On 2026-03-12 16:46:33, you wrote to me:
 Wv> 
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> Yes most systems accept crashmail, but don't you need to
 Wv>  Wv>> configure a
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> password
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> at either end so that each system can authenticate and send/rece
 Wv>  Wv>> fr
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> each
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> other?
 Wv>  Wv>>
 Wv>  Wv>> No. When you have setup a secure link with another system it's not
 Wv>  Wv>> crashmail. Crashmail is when you send mail to a system you don't have
 Wv>  Wv>> pre-configured secure link with.
 Wv>  Wv>>
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> Just setting up a system and sending messages will result in aut
 Wv>  Wv>>  CS> errors until they've been "set up" fully, right?
 Wv>  Wv>>
 Wv>  Wv>> Nope. On most systems the packet will just end up in the "none secure
 Wv>  Wv>> inbound. What happens with packets in the none secure inbound is up t
 Wv>  Wv>> the sysop and how he configures his system, and the features his toss
 Wv>  Wv>> has for this.
 Wv> 
 Wv>  og> I had a scenario recently where a sysop was looking to get his fidonet
 Wv>  og> number. He used me as a hub to forward a netmail to my hub.
 Wv> 
 Wv> You don't have to do that. He has to crash his request himself at the
 Wv> Host of the net where he wants to become a node.

He didn't understand that.  We got him the corret info eventually

 Wv> 
 Wv>  og> as I don't accept unsecured mail.
 Wv> 
 Wv> Then why are you in the nodelist? You should be a point, if other nodes
 Wv> can't send you crashmails, you don't need a public node number.

By that logic, I could just open the door to your house and walk right in unannounced/uninvited.

 Wv> 
 Wv>  og> What you're saying above is I should have accepted his mail and then
 Wv>  og> what? Read it and them decide what to do? That to me seems like
 Wv>  og> leaving your front door open and letting anyone walk in
 Wv>  og> unannounced/uninvited.
 Wv> 
 Wv> No it's like having a postbox infront of your house where anyone can put
 Wv> mail in, instead of a locked box where only the postman and you have a
 Wv> key.

We apparently have a difference of opinion. I will respect your right to have your opinion if you reciprocate.

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