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Assunto:  Re: MTG
De:       Max Stubbs
Data:     Wed, 1 Apr 2026 07:26:27 -0700
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  Re: Re: MTG
  By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Tue Mar 31 2026 10:30 am

 > Recall Marie Curie... Female Physici
 > who discovered radium...
 > 
 > Welp, she managed to get the grades 
 > go to postsecondary school.  She
 > applied to get into University with 
 > marks in a predominantly male educat
 > and work environment. <--- No DEI
 > 
 > Margaret Hamilton, a you woman
 > programmer working on the Apolo 11
 > project was able to save the program
 > because of her programming ideas.  <
 > Not DEI
 > 
 > She educated herself, was hired base
 > on merit and is now in the history
 > books and she will be talked about f
 > decades and decades to come.
 > 
 > I hear that programmers use her
 > methodology today.
 > 
 > Non DEI women and others with Melani
 > have contributed to society at great
 > levels...
 > 
 > MLK, Rosa Pasrks, Frederick Douglas
 > just to name a few.


The funny thing about the people you
chose to use as examples of non-DEI
achievements is that you primarily know
their names because the were the
exception that proved the rules tht
prevented others like them from working
in those fields. 

Marie Curie was exceptional, But how
many other women might have furthered
that research if they had been
permitted to fulfill working roles as
staff and such? We'll never now, becaue
they were prevented from working purely
on the appearance of their name making
them unhireable. No, to become noteable
meant that a special set of
circumstance had to come together along
with the attitude she had to finally
result in her success. 

Many of the others you listed didn't
even do traditional work tht DEI would
apply to; Frederick Douglass did not do
traditional work once he had freed
himself from slavery and established
himself as an intellectual. He was 
essentially a freelancer.

And mind you, I'm not even specifically
defendin DEI or demanding
reimplementation. I'm just saying you
can't define it, and the best you are
able to do is point at some anecdotes,
not systemic problems, and go "bad
thing happened because person not white
male, DEI is responsible" as if a white
dude isn't equally as capable of
capsizing a cruise ship or crashing a
plane; they've been doing that for
decades I assure you. 

And to my point, you still can't
demonstrate how winning the fight
against DEI has made YOUR life better. 

So by all means, cheer for yourself.
You did it. But what did YOU gain? You
beat the trannies, the immigrants, the
blue hairs, the gays, the Joses and the
Shaniquas of America to make room for
the the "right" people.

Let me know when it brings a smile to
your face and the resentment stops.





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