BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Has Iran been defeated?
De:       Mike Miller
Data:     Sun, 22 Mar 2026 11:06:29 -0500
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Hello Aaron!

22 Jun 70 04:25, you wrote to me:

 MM>>  MM>>  A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
 MM>>  MM>> "obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was
 MM>> "set back
 MM>>  MM>> years"
 MM>>
 MM>>  AT> It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.
 MM>>
 MM>>  Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed
 MM>> that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

 AT> If someone gives an estimate of "years" and it turns out to be "a
 AT> year" I don't consider that lying.


 Except it wasn't a year.  it was "months"   less than 9 months, to be precise.



 AT> Biden said that he'd cure cancer if he became president. Was that
 AT> Democrat lying? Obama said that he'd make healthcare affordable for
 AT> all Americans. Was that Democrat lying?


 Trump has also said he'd "cure cancer". Lying?  no.  Overambitious? yes.  neither claimed to have done such a thing.


 And Obama said he'd make healthcare *more* affordable for all Americans.  I'd go so far as to say he did so.

 (The "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it" statement though. ick.  While he was a bit more optimistic about that when he intially said it, it turned out that was absollutely not true.  Even he has admitted he dropped the ball on that one)


 AT> You've got to give Trump some time. If it turns out that there was no
 AT> such enrichment facility in Iran, then you get the right to call him a
 AT> liar.


No, Trump said he "obliterated" Iran's ability to enrich nuclear material.  he said their ability was "set back years"

Then,  9 months later he said the attacks were necessary to destroy nuclear sites that were working on enriching nuclear fuel.  You know, the sites that were "obliterated" less than a year before.

He either lied last year, or he lied this year.

Or, as I said,  it's far more likely he lied both times.


Even his own administration can't get their messaging straight when talking about the reasons for attacking Iran.

Gas prices have risen $0.25-$0.30 per gallon for regular each week for the last month.  That means gas prices are over $1 more today than they were 4 weeks ago.

I drove up to Hayward a little over a month ago.  It cost me around $55 to fill my tank up from empty to full.   Today it would cost me $80.  It's rising faster than it did in early 2022, where it peaked at over $5 a gallon.

And it's all because Donnie,  the "president of peace",  Mr "end the forever wars"  got goaded into starting a new nation-building forever-war in Iran becasue he's easily manipulated. Tell him he has to do something to "appear tough" and he'll do it.




Mike


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