BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Re: I know you hate links
De:       Max Stubbs
Data:     Mon, 30 Mar 2026 08:16:25 -0700
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  Re: Re: I know you hate links
  By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Thu Mar 26 2026 06:13 pm

 > On 25 Mar 2026, Max Stubbs said the
 > following...
 > 
 > 
 >  MS> Well we'll see who has the righ
 >  MS> of it
 >  MS> before long. Mamdani is mayor,
 >  MS> he's
 >  MS> executing his agenda, and NYC w
 >  MS> either flourish or fail. So far
 >  MS> the
 >  MS> former seems more likely, and I
 >  MS> will
 >  MS> defer to his successes and
 >  MS> failures
 >  MS> as NYC moves forward. For obvio
 >  MS> ideological reasons I am invest
 >  MS> in the results of his policies,
 >  MS> see
 >  MS> what works and what does not.
 > 
 > 
 > Google search... Based on recent IRS
 > and census data, approximately
 > 352,000 to 376,000 people leave New
 > York City annually, which averages t
 > roughly 960 to 1,000+ residents movi
 > out daily.
 > 
 > Thatcher said it best... Socialism i
 > great until you run out of other
 > people's money.
 > 
 > The people with the means of product
 > and the wealth are leaving.  NYC and
 > even NY will fail if this trend does
 > change.
 > 
 > Wealthy people's assets are not your
 > No one owes you anything!!!
 > 
 > Elon came to the US as a student and
 > built an empire and contributed to
 > society.
 > 
 > He was built things like... PayPal,
 > Tesla (made it what it is today),
 > Starlink and SpaceX.  Among other
 > things.
 > 
 > He's rescued people from space and i
 > heading to the moon...
 > 
 > And we have Max thinking that every 
 > owes him.
 > 
 > The US Constitution prohibits a larg
 > footprint in your life.  It was
 > constructed and worded in a way to
 > minimize the federal government.
 > 
 > ^^^^^^---- The above could be the
 > reason why the US is so successful.
 > 
 > You have the same opportunities as E
 > has/had go out there and do somethin
 > productive.
 > 
 > 
 >  MS> I think that if we as Americans
 >  MS> are
 >  MS> prioritizing the need of th ric
 >  MS> over the needs of the masses th
 >  MS> we
 >  MS> are fucking up. The government 
 >  MS> supposed to serve the people, n
 >  MS> a couple dudes and fuck everyon
 >  MS> else. That attitude needs to di
 > 
 > 
 > These couple of Dudes earned their
 > money ... you should earn your way.
 > They did it you can do it.
 > 
 > No one owes you!!!
 > 
 > 
 >  MS> So we'll see how things look at
 >  MS> the end of his term. I suspect
 >  MS> though that NYC citizen's lives
 >  MS> will improve significantly, and
 >  MS> that's far more valuable than
 >  MS> how well some corporation is
 >  MS> doing.
 > 
 > 
 > Corporations exist to do 1 thing and
 > thing only.  Build wealth and turn a
 > profit, that's it.
 > 
 > When governments and people think th
 > are owed more than they deserve
 > companies move their assets.
 > 
 > There may be a time that no companie
 > or wealth producers will stay in NY 
 > other Democrat run cities and states
 > 
 > IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
 > AKA Joe Schweier
 > SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
 > -=JoesBBS.com=-
 > 
 > ... If you choose not to decide, you
 > still have made a choice

You billionaire defenders always miss
the point and misdirect. 

1) Billionaires and corporations do not
owe individuals anything. They DO owe
their governments and the society they
exist in a great deal, and they take
far more than they give.

2) The argument people like me make is
that the idea that we should accept
that a corporation has no other
responsibility but profit for
themselves is untenable and
unacceptable. It's old thinking. These
corporations exist now at international
scale, larger than many national
governments. What they do affects
people the world over. The libertarian
saying goes that one has freedom until
you touch the tip of my nose. Well, the
corporations are touching our noses and
twisting them. 

3) Nothing those major corporations are
doing is helping you day to day life,
or where it seems to, a little deeper
digging always reveals the ways in
which they lobby againt you, Joe Schmoe
on the street. They take your data,
your privacy, your benefits, your time,
they lobby the government to reduce
your protections while also lobbying to
get the government to subsidize your
existence under their employ so that
they don't have to front it.

4) Basically, these people and
companies are already at war with you.
You should go to war with them. 

This doesn't need to be a leftist
issue. Teddy Roosevelt understood how
serious things were. Take a look at the
1912 Bull Moose policy platform. Beyond
the things we have now, are other
reforms that would check not only
companies but also government officials
who are too close to those companies. 

Look, if you want to be cuckold to the
Zuckerbergs of the world, I can't stop
you. But whether you enjoy watching or
not, they're still fucking the people
while you watch.



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