BBS:      TELESC.NET.BR
Assunto:  Re: Citadel? Courier? Cyrus? Dovecot? - I just want to backup my emails
De:       Markus Robert Kessler
Data:     Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:00:02 +1100
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 08:47:29 +0000 Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> Markus Robert Kessler  writes:
>> On 19 Jan 2026 07:23:39 +1000 Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Markus Robert Kessler  wrote:
>>>> after a 'make install' to some DESTDIR, I took the created 'usr' dir,
>>>> chown-ed everything to root:root and verified that the rights are
>>>> correct.
>>>> 
>>>> Then I created a tar.gz archive out of this 'usr' dir.
>>>> 
>>>> From this I took alien to convert to rpm:
>>>> alien --target=`arch` -r gnu-mailutils-3.21.tar.gz
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All worked, but when trying to install the rpm I get
>>>> 
>>>> [1040 root@mga9x64-lb1 /tmp]# rpm -i gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64.rpm
>>>> error: Failed dependencies:
>>>>         devel(libgnutls(64bit)) is needed by
>>>>         gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 devel(libgsasl(64bit)) is needed
>>>>         by gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 devel(libltdl(64bit)) is
>>>>         needed by gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64 libgsasl.so.7()(64bit)
>>>>         is needed by gnu-mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64
>>>>         libgsasl.so.7(LIBGSASL_1.1)(64bit) is needed by gnu-
>>>> mailutils-3.21-2.x86_64
> [...]
>> Looking at the 'Failed dependencies' message above, this looks as if
>> the devel packages have to be linked statically, otherwise movemail and
>> others cannot access them and are asking for them again.  Do you
>> dispose this to be so?
> 
> I don?t know RPM well but for most packaging systems, if it says you?re
> missing a dependency then it just means you need to install the package
> containing that dependency.
> 
> Certainly within Debian the norm is for executables to be dynamically
> linked and the package containing then to have a dependency on the
> runtime packages for each shared library. Static executables are rare at
> best.
> 
> In your case, I thought you were trying to do a local build and install.
> So I don?t see why RPM is involved at all.

By exporting to some DESTDIR, then create a tar.gz / slackware install 
archive, and then convert this into a deb or rpm with the help of alien 
conversion tool, you have full control over the location of the files 
(derived from make install), and this guarantees that nothing is 
overwritten by accident. Also, every install is tracked.

Meaning, same as make install directly, but with full control over it

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