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Assunto:  udev ... errrrr ... eudev ... errrr ... systemd
De:       Alan Ianson
Data:     Thu, 12 Feb 2026 21:56:12 -0800
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> Everything here, running 24/7 or otherwise, is sysv based.  Not sure if I'll
> bother with with a systemd machine given that even with a gui onboard it will
> ever get much use.  I live on the commandline and was highly unimpressed with
> systemd the last time I tried.

I have always thought that systemd was over engineered, perhaps grossly over engineered.

Systemd is more than just an init system as SysV is. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

>> LFS-systemd versions with glibc-2.43 and systemd-259.1. Both are
>> running without issues, mostly.

> I am impressed.  I may have to try that soon.

I am impressed too. I have always had issues of some sort with systemd and wanted to see if I could get past them. I seem to be past them now.

>> I read that LFS 13.0 will not include SysV because of issues with
>> gnome and I think kde too.

> I have neither so I am guessing I might be able to avoid that version.  Who
> knows, I might go back to slackware if I am no longer able to keep up with
> the pace, especially over any gui applications.  I find gui's too boring.

I use xfce here. Very light weight and it has enough go to satisfy my needs.

> Anyhow thank you for the heads up and hopefully I can quickly resolve the
> udev issue soon.  If not then ?????

The issue is not that SysV is a bad thing, it's not. The issue is that gnome and kde are designed to work with systemd. The book editors have been building LFS with eudev from systemd and elogind from systemd when a desktop is wanted
and it is getting harder and harder to do.

Slackware hasn't included gnome for years now so no issue there, but kde and xfce are the main desktops in slackware. I wonder if Pat has or will come up with a way to continue on with SysV.

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